Pod 4 Good

Pod 4 Good

Jesse Ulrich and Chris Miller, two lifelong friends who have a passion to make their home city and state stronger, tackle the issues, articulate the frustrations, investigate the whys, and cheer the triumphs of the many hard-working individuals and their dynamic organizations who are working to make Tulsa, Oklahoma and the world a more vibrant and inclusive place.

Recent Episodes

Stephen Galoob and Fixing a Broken Justice System

Sept. 16, 2021

Jesse and Chris are joined by Professor (don't call him Doctor, he will explain why) Stephen Galoob. Stephen is Chapman Professor of Law at the University of Tulsa College of Law and is heavily involved in working to fix Okl…

Matt Gleason and How To Tell Your Story

Sept. 2, 2021

Chris and Jesse are delighted to be joined by the chief storyteller for the Tulsa Area United Way, Matt Gleason. Matt talks about his time working for the Mental Health Association, who during the early phases of the lockdow…

T'erra Estes and Teaching Not Punish

Aug. 12, 2021

Chris and Jesse are joined by T'erra Estes, the executive director and founder of Teach Not Punish. She tells us about her journey to starting this fantastic organization, why our education system sometimes fails to educate …

Toby Jenkins, Doing Whatever It Takes, and 918-The-Gays

July 15, 2021

Chris and Jesse are joined by Toby Jenkins, CEO of Oklahomans For Equality and the executive director of the Dennis R .Neil Equality Center. Toby tells us the story of his journey from a conservative Republican, who was prom…

Dr. Jabraan Pasha, Implicit Bias, and the Doctor's Internet

July 1, 2021

Chris and Jesse are joined by Dr. Jabraan Pasha. Jabraan is a professor at the University of Oklahoma School of Community Medicine, a lecturer on implicit bias, having led over 100 workshops over the topic across the world; …

Anneliese Bruner, White Primacy, and Telling the Whole Story

June 17, 2021

Chris and Jesse are joined by Anneliese Bruner. Anneliese is the great granddaughter of Mary E. Jones Parrish, a survivor of the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921. Bruner’s great grandmother wrote an account of what she and other…